Rick: Pleasure to announce back to the MuchMusic environment, Dave Navarro.
Dave: I like that two-handed. That's nice.
Rick: My uncle does that. My Uncle Bruno does that.
Dave: He's a smart man, your uncle.
Rick: It's very sincere.
Dave: This is normal. This is like, it's really nice to meet you, you see what I', saying? Nice to meet you, really nice to meet you.
Rick: not that nice to meet me, come on. Hey, so the last time I saw you we were down at this MTV Movie Awards in L.A. You had a good night.
Dave: I did, I had a great night.
Rick: You were awaiting the arrival of this release here.
Dave: Yes.
Rick: "Trust No One." It wasn't out yet.
Dave: Yeah.
Rick: It's out now. How are things going?
Dave: Who knows? Who cares?
Rick: No one knows, no one cares.
Dave: I don't keep abreast of how it is doing. I am grateful to have made it and have closure on the project. Whatever it does and how it is perveived is not my business. You know what I mean?
Rick: You are saying you are here to perform and make your music.
Dave: I'm just showing up, man.
Rick: You're showing up. That to me is what its all about, making the music and the creative process and all that stuff. How is it going to do?
Dave: What are the sales, the spins and thisand that, that's too much to worry about. Ultimately I have no control over that anyway.
Rick: People do.
Dave: Ultimately if there is a song in there that somebody can tap their foot to, that makes me happy. Don't but it if not.
Rick: You don't mind if we talk about it?
Dave: Not at all.
Rick: Is it meant to be as cynical as it sounds? "Trust No One"?
Dave: When I wrote the majority of those songs, it was, I kind of felt that way. I didn't trust anybody. That is actually an adage that comes from sailing times, whenever that was. I don't know when that was, sailors used to have that tattooed on them, it had to do with oncoming and not to trust the enemy, whether or not there was the enemy. It was a cynical title. It was sarcastic, and I think the process of making this record has enabled me to get deeper into trust with myself and with people. Having said that, it's not my concern how it does because the whole thing was aprocess for me and I'm grateful to have done it and learned what I learned. There is no message for anybody bur for me, I guess. If one is extracted, that's cool too. I don't have the audacity to claim that there is some message.
Rick: The message is for you, you were saying. Can you let us know about that message or is it too personal?
Dave: The truth is that that message changes from day-to-day.
Rick: One of those messages?
Dave: Which ones?
Rick: One of those that changes from day-to-day.
Dave: One of them would be living in the moment. Staying true to the moment. One of them might be the trust issue. One of them might be that our past experiences don't necessarily paint the outcomes of future, you know? Sometimes there is no message, sometimes it is rock songs for christ sake. You know what I mean? For the end of the day, it's a collection of rock songs.
Rick: Good old rock-and-roll.
Dave: I would hate to dismiss it that way, but the bottom line is it's music. 10 songs on a CD and sometimes that's the message.
Rick: It's a little more though if you think about it for yourself because you've been known primarily as a guitar palyer. On this one you are doing more than playing a guitar, you're singing. You have more outlets of expressing your creativity. Pino as well, computer programming. That must have been fun, a challange rather than just playing a guitar.
Dave: It would only be a challenge if I would lookd at it as something I was worried about, being judged. In terms of it having been a process to get into, it's not really a challenge, it's simply fun. There is a lot of intellectualizing that goes along with working in the studio for me. That's fun too. It's a way, it's exciting to do music like this because it gives me an opportunity to look at the issues that I'm trying to deal with, and at the same time escape from them. I am in an environment where I have different things at my disposal and I can kind of just escape. It's kind of cool, you know?


Rick: You wrote this one, working on it, you started work on it in '98 when the Chili Peppers were on hiatus there. Can you tell us about your mind frame at the time, what you were going through?
Dave: The truth is I like at the music as an avenue of expression, and the fact that this happens to be more personal and deals with, obviously I wrote the lyrics, and so a little more specifically inclined, but my motivation to work on music, whether it is collaborativeor singular is always the same. That is just as a form of expression. As far as my mind frame goes at that time, you know, that's really kind of irrelevant. The bottom line is it happens to be more specific this time because I can attach lyrics rather than just put everything I'm feeling I'm feeling into my guitar playing. I had the time to do that so it was a cool experience.
Rick: Interesting song that you have chosen to cover on this one, the Velbet Underground song.
Dave: "Venus In Furs."
Rick: I find it interesting when artists cover other artist's work. Why that one?
Dave: Dating back to the first Jane's Addiction record, Lou Reed happens to be one of my favorite. He is one of my favorite artists, Velvet Underground one of my favorite bands. Dating back to the Jane's album, we did a Lou Reed cover on that album. He has been a motivating inspiration in terms of art and creativity and pushing the envelope. That song I used to perform with the Chili Peppers, so since I recorded it with Chad Smith, it seemed like the natural avenue. Tipping a hat to Lou Reed, Chili Peppers and Jane's Addiction all in one moment, pretty cool.
Rick: If that camera gets too close, we can push him away.
Dave: That's fine. I'm open to anything.
Rick: We're talking about Jane's Addiction. Is this the second reunion for you guys. Mark Tines (ph.) on bass who played in Porno For Pyros. Two-thirds of Porno For Pyros, two-thirds of Jane's Addiction in one outfit. Second reunion.
Dave: I like to look at it as we are doing it as we are doing it again. I think Jane's Addiction will ultimately be home for me regardless of what ever other projects I might be involved in. It's kind of cool to be able to return home like that, so it is definitely the third chunk of time that we're taking to do this, but you know, we get to mature and grow up as artists and individuals and bring that back to the table.
Rick: You're touring, right?
Dave: Yeah.
Rick: With the guys?
Dave: Mm-hmm.
Rick: Are you recording??
Dave: I don't know. There has been talk, but nothing finalized. We are more interesting in seeing how the tour goes before we make firm commitments. You know what I mean? Perry's record came out today, which if you haven't had a chance go pick it up, it's incredible.
Rick: Watch your neck. The kink in your neck, we don't want to be liable for, now that I know this you might be liable, pal.
Dave: Perry's record is great. It came out today. He has that. I have this. Tines plays in a band called Banion. Mark Tines plays with a number of people. We get to do all those things and return to Jane's. We all have different and similar interests. Creatively our needs get met in Jane's Addiction, but in ways we can't have them be met in other areas. There is things on this record that I can't do in Jane's and same with Perry and his record and Mark Tines and his project. The best of both worlds.


Rick: We are going to play "Rexall," first one off "Trust No One." It was a drug store where your parents met in Hollywood. Is that the story for this song?
Dave: That is part of the story. The song is basically, like I said, first of all the interpretations that I gain from these songs changes from day-to-day. That song, initially the title was taken, as you said, my parents met at that particular drug storeand it's a place I go to pretty much on a weekly basis in L.A. What's up, Dave?
Rick: What do you pick up at that drug store?
Dave: Whatever you get. I can give you an answer if you really want to know. I get toothpaste and shampoo, nail polish, mascara. Yeah, so that's where they met, and you know, more so than that it was about my first idea of what love which was as my parental environment, and the title of the song, it's kind of quirky.
Rick: Let's get to the video. Before that we hope to see you up here with Jane's Addiction in Toronto.
Dave: I hope to be here.
Rick: You're not sure?
Dave: I don't know what the dates are, two places I want to go is Toronto and Vancouver.
Rick: Really? in the whole wide world or just in Canada?
Dave: In the world because I love Vancouverand I'm starting to love Toronto.
Rick: What do you love about these places?
Dave: I find that it's for me, I'm a city person and I really love cities and where there is a lot of activity going on. I also like friendly people, and I found that the people here and in Vancouver, which are the only two that I had a chance to get into, are just really kind and not at you with their vibe a lot of people, places where I go, New York City and I live in Hollywood, everybody has their thing and they are trying to show it down your throat and it's annoying, you know what I mean? At the same time, they are totally oblivious to each other. I always talk about L.A. as being one of those places where everybody is so self-centered they don't notice each other. They are trying to cram your vibe down your throat. It is an uncomfortable place to spend a lot of time in. Hopefully the rest of Canada is different.
Rick: That C stood for something. You should give Halifax, Nova Scotia a shot. Nice people out there.
Dave: Ontario, I've never been.
Rick: Check it out. Dave, Nice talking to you.
Dave: Really nice to meet you.
Rick: This is "Rexall," latest off "Trust No One." You didn't flip the station on us.

(Playing "Rexall" Video)


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